itp covid vaccine

Please see “Kingdom, United.” Asia might help on the clue front, as well. The only organisms found in all SSPE suffers is HSV1 and CMV. What you never heard of this happening???? I would be highly surprised if more than 0.001 out of a million people had this side-effect. you claim economics was yyor “job”, so you should already have that data. https://www.news.com.au/technology/world-could-face-hunger-pandemic-in-2021-world-food-programe-warns/news-story/f314d1447fb33c3375bad2cf0f6bbc09. Do you know the joke about the lawyer, the forensic doc, and the murder victim whose brain was in a jar? Then we’ll check if it’s reasonable, and also check if your number adding reaches that number. Dr. Michael apparently died before he could be operated on, as risky as surgery would be. What’s more a few others developed the same autoimmune condition (see CDC) proximate to getting the vaccine. Indeed, one of the deaths in the placebo group for the Pfizer vaccine was due to a hemorrhagic stroke. If you keep children in a nice clean bubble, such as most American homes now are, you are not doing the child a favor………. After all, a risk of ITP that high should produce a much more noticeable incidence of ITP. No, you’re making a really stupid extrapolation based on the presumption of a static world. So now you’re a deficit hawk. Your last comment is extremely strange. Unsurprisingly, the first line of treatment, however, is corticosteroids, ranging from oral prednisone in less severe cases to intravenous dexamethasone or methylprednisolone in more severe cases in which the platelet count is so low as to risk bleeding. Identifying that they also had “wild type” measles in them, does not mean the “wild type” was the cause of the SSPE. It’s always a good laugh to outsmart it rhetorically. Remember, one of the most important things that you can do as you get older is argue online with random people about vaccines. I’ve had a Type 4 response come on in less than 24 hours. What a gem of a paper. And you know it. And a live Thomson-Reuters data feed from financial markets to feed data into my stochastic optimisation algorithms… ah, well… that’s quite expensive too. HAPPENING!!!! That’s why experts don’t see the vaccine as causing it. Dr. Iannelli further notes that the annual incidence rate of ITP is estimated to be 3.3 per 100,000 adults/year. In the west I posted research that showed that unemployment is worse than any pandemic but that it won’t show up like a pandemic. If only antivaxxers could bottle their own immunity to shame, they’d make an absolute fortune flogging it on public speaking circuits. Every dollar spent on a product by purchasing it outside the local economy, decreases the total amount of money within that economy. Given that there were approximately 44,000 subjects in the Pfizer/BioNTech trial with not a single patient showing signs if ITP, we can reasonably conclude that, even if the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine increases the risk of ITP or causes ITP, the risk must be very, very low. Clearly more study is needed, and one anecdote isn’t enough to draw any conclusions. However, when someone is behaving like a fool, yeah, we have a right to call a spade a spade. Wanna join? I think my comments stood the test of time fairly well. Everything I’ve read thus far has convinced me that the benefits of the various Coronavirus vaccines vastly outweigh the risks of getting Covid. If it were not for the effects to the economy from this Pandemic, these rushed vaccines would not have seen the light of day for years yet. The reason that splenectomy works is because platelets with antibodies bound to them are taken up by macrophages in the spleen. Did I say I believed in it? When this person initially started making comments – on Dr. Paul Offit’s Facebook page – she claimed she was a nurse. What might lead scientists to think that there is an actual association between vaccination with the Pfizer/BioNTech COVID vaccine and ITP? See the comments above about why the two articles are off topic. Here, there are no other known causes for this patient’s condition. Just an FYI the US debt is around 28 Trillion not your figure of 20 Trillion, but again who is counting, but the interest alone on the debt is over 1 Billion dollars a day and going up. Hopefully they will come up with a better vaccine for the measles, but I highly doubt it. Or a GI surgeon ( Andy) pontificating upon brain development? But they definitely were exposed to CMV and HSV1in the one study. Some biologics (not to my knowledge ones on the top-seller list) are derived from substances isolated from plants, including at least one influenza vaccine. It is amazing how things progress. they claim that they are being stopped, suppressed or downgraded because they are a threat to the Establishment, Scientism, Meanies etc. Maybe not. Carry on. The interest on $2 billion is going to cripple our future. And death from ITP is not that common, most all recover enough platelet count to be “fine”, as long as they are careful. You’re attacking a straw man, since I only said that the vaccine will be free to recipients, not anything else about how it’s being paid for. The WTO consensus of the year 2000 is kind of over. Splenectomy can result in durable remission of ITP in up to 80% of patients, but, again, it’s generally risky because of the elevated risk of bleeding in the sorts of patients for whom the operation is generally reserved, namely those with refractory severe ITP. What I might say about this is we all know the measles vaccine is so badly made that after the problems of kids who are vaccinated getting the measles, the government has been think of recommending boosters beyond the two initial vaccinations as the protection fades. You and I share an interest in the wonderful world of plants. A. Vaccines must be defended at all costs! I think that our host may have even applied the rules of contagion to anti-vaxxers who fear the least taint in vaccines. The rate of regular allergic reactions like difficulty breathing, breaking out in a rash, etc is so much higher. If the mRNA injected was “dead” then it would not be able to tell our cells to make the protein sequence that duplicates the SARS-CoV-2 protein spike, in order to get the immune system to make antibodies to the spike protein. Why do you think they want to get rid of cash (paper and metal coins)?”. (The same principle applies to claims that vaccines cause autism.) There is not a product made by man that can not be improved upon. Fulminating about such a relatively miniscule outlay in the face of a national emergency is extremely foolish – and again, betrays an agenda that flies in the fact of facts and reason. In other words, it’s not a slam dunk that ITP is even caused by COVID-19, much less ITP this severe.. Welcome! Elsewhere, I predicted: The point is that there will be all sorts of scary stories about COVID-19 vaccines in the coming weeks and months, and a lot of people will have reactions similar to mine. You paid for the vaccines with your taxes, how do you think the US government got the money to buy the vaccines? But I do not believe shareholders should be exempt from taxation, nor do I think plutocrats should hold indirect legislative power (though I do think plutocrats can do a very fine job when playing the game of direct democracy). Chronic ITP lasts 6 months or longer and mostly affects adults. He pretty much follows consensus opinion with some criticism. “Let me give you some advice, if you have a mortgage, pay it off way before you get to 50 years old.”. You chose to leave that out and then later chose to try to shift the burden of proof. Welcome aboard. Unfortunately, Dr. Michael’s case is, at present, a single anecdote, making it impossible to demonstrate causation. The problem then becomes determining whether his tragic outcome was a coincidence or due to the vaccine. Did you hire people to do your homework in school? You do not like them, then find an article that has proof SSPE is caused by the Measles and not the measles vaccine. “in the US you would be called a racist for saying that.”. 1996 Bill Clinton we hit $5 Trillion Natalie… who is an anti-vaxxer and makes no bones about it. I’ve dropped the topic a quite some years ago and do not care much about the news nowadays. Lordy. Pfizer told DailyMail.com Wednesday that it was aware of Dr. Michael’s ‘highly unusual’ death and was investigating further. as I have done to others who post here. Again, you can’t tell that from just one case, however dramatic and tragic. Money merely is a proxy for that. I’m not an idiot, and I know things have to be paid for. Maybe COVID-19 vaccines will turn out to rarely cause ITP. The leaves are harvested and processed to obtain the crucial vaccine component, much faster than has been done with conventional flu vaccine technology. Simply from natural incidence. Always double-check your yield curves. Viruses cause ITP, and the mRNA vaccination is not injected dead virus, it injects a mRNA program to have the body’s cells make the virus. This time it showed just one platelet. Of course you can find anyone who disagrees with you “annoying” . I got the feeling it was not local (and, judging from the immaculate condition of the truck, his hands were probably clean). And improvements continue, though some of the stuff in cars today is rather like putting lipstick on a dog. Is it any wonder that ITP can occur a few days after a COVID vaccination? I really don’t care about the US debt/deficits. Treatment may not be needed. Switching to India will not change that. Yeah. Because ITP sounds like a neat group of letters? Already did. As you did? That was the first plant my parents showed me as a little kid, to tell me it was extremely poisonous and not it even touch it. And why does Taxol not count? Not many blogs where it’s allowed, unfortunately. You can tell how vile and self-serving the Daily Mail is when it touts its story as ‘EXCLUSIVE’ and litters the story with phrases like ‘DailyMail.com can reveal’ when initially all it has done is read and blindly repeat a tweet. These are not live virus vaccines, so they’re not equivalence to a virus. Look for antivaxxers to spin these coincidences as “definite proof” that the COVID-19 vaccine kills, just the way they’ve done for vaccines and sudden infant death syndrome (which is not caused by vaccines) and for the HPV vaccine and deaths of teenaged girls. “What takes money permanently out of local circulation is extremely bad for all of us”.”. That’s called “spitting facts”. A confused antivaxxer likens COVID-19 vaccines to sex and religion, Lipid nanoparticles: The antivax “toxins gambit” reborn for COVID-19 vaccines, Über-quack Joe Mercola falsely claims that “legally” the Moderna and Pfizer COVID-19 vaccines are not vaccines, bleeding from the gums (for example, during dental work), Viral infections (including chickenpox, parvovirus, hepatitis C, Epstein-Barr, and HIV), Sepsis, a severe bacterial infection in your blood, Certain drugs for heart problems, seizures, and infections, Heparin, a blood thinner used to prevent blood clots. It’s not the end of the story, though, and you should start giving it a thought. https://www.webmd.com/allergies/news/20140606/too-clean-homes-may-encourage-child-allergies-asthma-study. I never claimed to be a physician. I defend markets. Where did you see that Pfizer was expecting this? Acute ITP in children often goes away on its own within a few weeks or months and doesn’t return. Be that as it may, Ms. Neckelman’s post led to sensationalistic headlines, like this one from (who else?) I agree it might have made sense to require part of the profit of the main beneficiaries from the government money, but our administration does not seem to have done so, or limit their global freedom. Chronic ITP affects women two to three times more often than men. A few media reports likely aren’t though. Given that there are about 7.5 BILLION people in the world, that means that they would have to give the vaccine to about 5.6 BILLION people before we get to herd immunity. (More on the general risk of ITP after vaccination later.). Chris, Temporal relation to the vaccine is evidence that the vaccine is the cause. https://www.forbes.com/advisor/mortgages/pay-off-your-mortgage-early/. I don’t speak for antivaxers. Now, which is it, massive clotting that depletes platelets to zero (magically without showing any symptoms of such clotting) or an allergic reaction that attacks platelets on a scale not previously seen? You could also say there is no proof that people who had allergic reactions at the time of their COVID vaccination, actually were reacting to the vaccine. Right now they are all experimental and unlicensed. You’re confusing things. ITP may be a side-effect of the vaccine, although if it is it must be rare. Which is the kind of think of thing I am experiencing from catholic apologists of the worst kind, who instrumentalise my experience of abuse to morally blackmail me into submission to Jesus. That’s called “markets”, whether you like it or not. Want to tell a mother whose child has an allergic reaction to peanut the first time they are given peanut butter, that it could not have occurred for 7-21 days after that first exposure? The other article looked for viruses involved in SSPE, measles was not found, CMV and HSV1 was found in all of the SSPE cases pluses some other viruses here and there. Give us a break with your spineless bravado. Note that Taxol and friends don’t count. “And some of the people that post here are in desperate need of those professionals”. But they are pointing that we need evidence. The world does not work like that. Most people who have chronic ITP can stop treatment at some point and maintain a safe platelet count. They are none of my business. Since without good T-cells a vaccine will not help you much. And it gets worse every year. And I wind up with weird bloodwork, and we sit there hoping it will just go away and not become chronic. In 80 percent of children who have ITP, the platelet count returns to normal within 6 to 12 months. Anaphlatic shock is no fun, just the adrenaline shot is a very unpleasant experience. I can only try to imagine what she is going through now, particularly given that her husband was within a couple of years of my age. And incomplete fragment can just not program a cell to make more copies of the virus. In case of emergency, platelet transfusions are used, but this is usually not the first choice because the new platelets are usually chewed up by the autoimmune response just as fast as the patient’s own platelets. Which is why the government is saying if you have a problem with serious allergic reactions, then you should not get this vaccine at all. Many herbalism promoters boast about a high proportion of modern drugs being plant-based, while simultaneously declaring that the pharmaceutical industry ignores plant-based remedies because they can’t be patented. Nothing like asking “Can I go to the bathroom?” , and being told “You can, but “may you” is the question.”. but then you go on to psychoanalyze any poster who disagrees with you. Everyone did. Perhaps mRNA technology will yield that better vaccine that we keep hoping for? Double standard – not surprised. 2007 George Bush $9 Trillion. Our taxpayer money paid for its development, so our residents should get it without cost, since we’ve already paid for it. Because the interest rate is crippling the future of 331 million people whose kids see their jobs going to AI and robots. My article explained that initially it was thought vaccines could cause SSPE, but growing knowledge showed that wrong. The TPP was an attempt to balance that out, but we dropped out. It’s a necessary political addition to liberal democracy. A word of caution, however, don’t eat the ones that have been doused in herbicides. Wanting deregulation to make more money while the locals suffer.”. The Daily Mail: Heidi Neckelmann says obstetrician Gregory Michael, 56 – her ‘best friend’ and partner of 28 years – was active, healthy and had no pre-existing conditions before getting the jab on December 18. They can and should be broken apart with antitrust laws as soon as we can identify that they become monopolies stifling competition among firms. Miami medical examiners are investigating his death, the Florida Department of Health said in a statement. True, ITP is listed on the Gardasil package insert as a possible adverse reaction, but, as Dr. Iannelli goes on to explain further, later studies have shown no association, and the risk of getting ITP after an actual measles infection is considerably higher than the risk of ITP after the MMR vaccine, thus leading him to point out that “worry about ITP is a not a good reason to skip or delay getting vaccinated”. There is more than one way to get money from a company. However he died from a stroke Sunday morning after suddenly developing a rare autoimmune illness that causes the body to destroy its own platelets, the tiny fragments that help blood to clot. When money flows in one direction, something else, whether a commodity or a financial investment or whatever flows in the other. That’s some mighty fine juvenalia. COVID-19 vaccines don’t have an actual insert yet, making your attempt to misrepresent inserts even less convincing than usual. “My view is the local economy view…. This, after all, is the warp and woof of your corpus. And if set up right, it should have an effect. The disease causes blood clots, did you think the vaccine never would? (As I like to say, “idiopathic” basically means “we don’t know the cause.”), The story further noted that ITP is rare and that in extremely rare cases, the measles, mumps and rubella (MMR) vaccine has been linked to thrombocytopenia in children, according to a 2003 study. Gee, I do not take all the medications my doctors want to prescribe… so by your logic you should say I must be “anti-medicine”. He worked out, we had kayaks, he was a deep sea fisherman. This isn’t some life or death battle that I am going to get even remotely emotionally worked up about. What is your pricing for a world recovery? @ JustaTech writes, “Natalie, please lay off the anti-Semitic comments. https://www.ithaca.edu/faculty/rlesses/jewish-folk-religion-magic-and-ritual-power. The first such story has started circulating in the antivaccine nooks and crannies of social media, but it’s also being flogged by the usual British tabloids. I wonder how people who never ate a food in their life, who then eat it and have an immediate allergic reaction have acquire those antibodies. How about you learn something regarding allergy and the immune system before questioning, then you might actually have something useful to comment about. I wonder how people who never ate [sic] a food in their life, who then eat it and have an immediate allergic reaction have acquire [sic] those antibodies. Someone in China is making that wage instead. Welcome. @ Rebecca queries, “Are you a doctor or other health care worker?” I’m Nunya…that is nunya bizness. China and Russia don’t run their economies by the same rules as mainly democratic capitalist countries like the U.S., Germany, India, and Japan. Guess not. But claimly an expected side-effect which is known to happen, is not going to happen or did not happen….that is irresponsible. “Why do you think until 1982 the big talking points with other countries was always the “trade defict” and that other countries needed to buy more things from the US?”. We do not know if Dr. Michael’s case, as tragic as it is, even indicates potential causation. These two articles are the footnoted articles from the article you linked to support the gene identification claim. You’ve been here long enough that I know you have a thousand and one ways to try to denigrate each of us. Evangelical Lutherns wear red clothing on certain Sundays, a use of a symbol. It mainly occurs in children—both boys and girls—and is the most common type of ITP. on Did the Pfizer/BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine cause Dr. Gregory Michael’s fatal ITP? I am pro-Nuremberg Code. Ad hominem attack. No wonder suicide and death by drugs is going through the roof, they have no hope and no future. Stories like this always make me wonder how I’d react to the unexpected and rather rapid death of my wife. Antivaxxers such as scott allen use rhetoric stunts of this type all the time. If she wants to talk to the dining room table, she knows where to find you. That is an argument from ignorance. Deal with your issues across the Atlantic and do not bother me with your nonsense. but throw in Skitt’s law to his posts. I do not need to show you the data…. Congratulations, you win zip for TANSTAAFL though. The meaning the word has acquired in the popular psyche is not an accurate depiction of the concept: neoliberalism requires a state with strong powers to regulate markets ; and back up failures such as financial meltdowns, yes. No, wait; that was the plan all along. But birds love the berries the Pokeweed grows. That is only one layer below the deep morass. And most ITP does not result in total loss of platelets, it can be either an acute short-term problem, or the can be a long-term chronic disease process. I had to take care of a six month old baby with chicken pox before the vaccine for that was available. Rituxan When I was born in 1954, the debt was $271 Billion. This brings us, after this long detour into the weeds of what ITP is, what can trigger it, and how it’s treated, back to the question of COVID-19 vaccination and ITP, the question at the heart of the sad story of Dr. Michael’s sudden development of ITP refractory to treatment that claimed his life within two weeks of diagnosis. ), but the US government is (and has been) running a deficit for a long time, so that’s probably what paid for the vaccines. Intravenous immunoglobulin can also sometimes be effective at decreasing the rate at which macrophages (an immune cell) destroy antibody-tagged platelets. (Oddly, I got a metric shit-ton of tutelage about this yesterday from financially savvy friends. “Wasn’t that keen on anything after Dune.”, But… Hellstom’s Hive? I haven’t seen any significant research on “immune modulated autism” since then and I did look a few months ago. As for your concern about $2 billion dollars, well, thou had best get thine tuchas to the front gate of Fort Hood and protest away, because you would not believe how much of your tax money is spent on the military. She also claimed that she was not anti-vaccine. Until now only adults over 18 were permitted to receive the vaccination, but an announcement made by the Ministry of Health and Prevention today (Sunday January 18) states that the coronavirus vaccine eligibility is being extended to people aged 16 and above. Unless all the taxes are paid by the 1% and the corporations, and the government supports the bottom 80% of the population totally from cradle to grave, paying for everything they need. It has not been cooked. Type 1,2, & 3 allergic reactions are seen within a 24 hour period. ‘All the blood results came back normal except for the platelets which came back as zero,’ Heidi said. The reason that splenectomy works is because platelets with antibodies bound to them are taken up by macrophages in the spleen. Covid-19 protection measures have already drastically reduced influenza case numbers. “I am careful, I hooked it arond a post!” “Jump!” looks over and 900 feet of unspooled wire is heading at me at some 20 MPH. I’m anti-anti. I would love you to tell them they need antibodies to SARS- COV-2 first, before they have a reaction. And so as you get older immune T-cells decrease dramatically, making it rasirr to catch pertussis. He always had trouble between his desire for total freedom (libertarian ideals) and actually societal needs for people to co-operate (the lifeboat dilemma). “If only I had not spent so many extra days taking selfies with greasy bloaties along the way”, Natalie wailed. A few others that post here do hit and run posts, most come to brag or show off their new found knowledge, they got from their smart phones. The species native to the United States, Glycyrrhiza lepidota, has a broad range from western Ontario to Washington, south to Texas, Mexico and Missouri. I kind of see making fun of religions as a moral duty. […] including lies claiming that the vaccine renders females infertile, permanently alters your DNA, causes autoimmune disease, or even kills. I gave you two example why that jump is without foundation. However he died from a hemorrhagic stroke – when blood from an artery bleeds into the brain – before he could undergo the surgery. is recommending pausing the entire lot. Africa is economically booming. Then we might be more likely to partially blame the vaccine. However he died from a stroke Sunday morning after suddenly developing a rare autoimmune illness that causes the body to destroy its own platelets, the tiny fragments that help blood to clot. I admire work by Olivier Blanchard, for instance, no matter how much I may disagree with him. I have an excellent book in my horticultural library about medicinal plants used by Plains tribes in North America, and one of my long-planned but as yet unfulfilled projects is to establish a a walled medicinal herb garden (I have started seeds of an Asian mandrake species* which would fit in nicely). From the website, “We consider the use of amulets and other magical techniques for healing, and explore the relationship between magic and Jewish mysticism. I am trying to take these opportunities to learn something, through discussion with like minded people. Here’s the first story of a death after vaccination against COVID-19 that sounds plausible on the surface that allows me to revisit this issue because, unlike the cases of people who are, for example, hit by a car within two weeks of vaccination, we can’t just dismiss it a priori: A Florida doctor has died several weeks after receiving a COVID-19 vaccine, although it’s not yet clear whether his death Monday was related to the shot he received on Dec. 18. That’s provided that nothing goes wrong or the vaccine doesn’t need a booster every couple of years or the vaccine doesn’t work on the new strain. Miami medical examiners are investigating his death, the Florida Department of Health said in a statement. Wait until the studies are over and they pass regulation and can be licensed. Thanks for the laugh : ). “But the experts say” is more fallacy. I know you don’t wish for her to be coming to your suburbs*. These facts cannot be escaped through handwaving or coincidence any more than a man holding a gun over a dead body can argue that he wasn’t the one who shot him WITHOUT EVIDENCE THAT the bullet came from a different gun. Again, I think I understand why she did it, but really wish she hadn’t. You are welcome to link to whatever online source shows what you are referring to. Bush-league, grade screwell english teacher pedantry. (More on the general risk of ITP after vaccination later.). Now the inevitable “citation needed.” Make sure it is a PubMed indexed study by reputable qualified researchers. The fact that the doctor had an extreme case of ITP which was in no way normal shows his case of ITP was not in the “to be expect to occur” category. You did infer that she was a dumbass by telling her to get a course in economics. David H. Gorski, MD, PhD, FACS is a surgical oncologist at the Barbara Ann Karmanos Cancer Institute specializing in breast cancer surgery, where he also serves as the American College of Surgeons Committee on Cancer Liaison Physician as well as an Associate Professor of Surgery and member of the faculty of the Graduate Program in Cancer Biology at Wayne State University.

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